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Residents' bid to slash 'boozy' club's hours
A SNOOKER club which serves booze later than any venue in High Wycombe is facing a council showdown with residents over noisy customers.
Flat owners are using recent changes to licensing laws to try and slash the opening hours of the Hurricane Room, formerly Fast Eddie's in Corporation Street.
In 2005 the club got permission to open to 3am Sunday to Wednesday and 6am Thursday to Saturday.
But the plush Bankside development was built later - and residents now say drunken revellers are making their lives a misery.
Residents' spokesman Mike Kirkwood, 42, said people "lose six to 10 hours of quality time from their weekends".
They hope to cut the hours to 12am Sunday to Thursday and 2am Friday and Saturday under a little-used section of the 2003 Licensing Act.
This lets residents call a review - and has only been used four times in Wycombe.
The controversial act allowed pubs and shops to serve booze for longer and led to the snooker club extending its hours in 2005.
It now serves alcohol longer than any other club or pub in the town.
Mr Kirkwood, an engineer, said: "Some residents have to get up for work at 6am on weekdays and so only manage three to four hours sleep some nights and are therefore suffering sleep deprivation."
He said: "These have been fights, arguments, people shouting and swearing, illegal parking, loud music from cars, car doors slamming, urinating, spitting and littering."
Transcripts handed to councillors of recordings made by Mr Kirkwood include "shouting girls then swearing at doorman" and "loud voices getting more agitated".
One entry records "loud voices, words audible walk away walk away' followed by shouting oi, oi you'd better stay there' shut the f**k up'".
A report from Wycombe District Council's environmental services division - which arranged the recording and urged a review - said: "Specific evidence does suggest that the noise is linked to the Hurricane Room."
Pubs in the area shut at 2am and this is when the trouble starts, Mr Kirkwood claims, as revellers head to the snooker club to continue drinking.
A 2am close would resolve this, residents of the £250,000 flats believe.
Mr Kirkwood, a resident with his wife since last May, said: "This will also aid policing as the other public houses in and around the High Street also close at this time and therefore a police presence is already in the area."
By 5am police resources are "stretched as they have other commitments within other sections of the town" he claims.
The panel, which meets at 10.30am at the council's Queen Victoria Road offices, has powers which include changing the opening hours, removing a licensed activity and revoking the licence.
Hurricane Room owner Gavin Tressider declined to comment.
4:23pm Monday 12th May 2008
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CommentPosted by: ajb100, Wycombe on 4:32pm Mon 12 May 08
the flats were built after the rules were changed, its just like people moving in next to a train line and saying they should stop the trains sooner because they keep you awake (and they do, i live next to the line)
the flats were built after the rules were changed, its just like people moving in next to a train line and saying they should stop the trains sooner because they keep you awake (and they do, i live next to the line)
Posted by: SBJones, Wycombe on 4:48pm Mon 12 May 08
yes but to be open til 6am! its crazy and unnecessary these drinkers need to control themselves. im surprised the hours are allowed to be like that its totally wrong
yes but to be open til 6am! its crazy and unnecessary these drinkers need to control themselves. im surprised the hours are allowed to be like that its totally wrong
Posted by: Lo_Wycombe, Bowerdean Rd on 5:01pm Mon 12 May 08
[quote]im surprised the hours are allowed to be like that its totally wrong[/quote]
Clearly not for the people using the snooker centre, using the same logic you could argue that people that roll up to Morrisons 5 minutes before it closes are "wrong", but hey, its a free country...
The snooker centre was there long before the flats, did the buyers not look out of the windows and see it?
im surprised the hours are allowed to be like that its totally wrong
Clearly not for the people using the snooker centre, using the same logic you could argue that people that roll up to Morrisons 5 minutes before it closes are "wrong", but hey, its a free country...
The snooker centre was there long before the flats, did the buyers not look out of the windows and see it?
Posted by: Read All About It, HW on 5:11pm Mon 12 May 08
I think ajb100 is quite right - you don't move in to a flat above a nightclub then ask them to turn the music down - When you buy a house you should consider all aspects and although the people leaving the club SEEM to be acting in a bad way, is it really as bad as they are making out ? SBJones - Asda is open 24 hours a day - Should all them shoppers control themselves ??
I think ajb100 is quite right - you don't move in to a flat above a nightclub then ask them to turn the music down - When you buy a house you should consider all aspects and although the people leaving the club SEEM to be acting in a bad way, is it really as bad as they are making out ? SBJones - Asda is open 24 hours a day - Should all them shoppers control themselves ??
Posted by: davejones, Beaconsfield on 5:15pm Mon 12 May 08
Maybe the "plush" development should have incorporated better soundproofing, double glazing etc...
To be honest if you don't want the noise of the town, don't live in the center of town.
Maybe the "plush" development should have incorporated better soundproofing, double glazing etc...
To be honest if you don't want the noise of the town, don't live in the center of town.
Posted by: rob, wycombe on 9:36pm Mon 12 May 08
if the council let the builders build theses places in towns, where pubs and clubs are . what do you expect. do theses people look before they buy. if you want peace and no noise, dont buy in the town centre.
if the council let the builders build theses places in towns, where pubs and clubs are . what do you expect. do theses people look before they buy. if you want peace and no noise, dont buy in the town centre.
Posted by: Ivor on 12:33am Tue 13 May 08
[quote]A SNOOKER club which serves booze later than any venue in High Wycombe is facing a council showdown with residents over noisy customers.[/quote]I always thought Snooker was a gentleman's game. How times have changed....
A SNOOKER club which serves booze later than any venue in High Wycombe is facing a council showdown with residents over noisy customers.
I always thought Snooker was a gentleman's game. How times have changed....
Posted by: Tharus Bond, Wycombe on 8:17am Tue 13 May 08
First off it isn't snooker it is a POOL club!
It is a wonderful place to spend an evening and I personnally haven't seen any trouble.
Although me and my friends leave about 23:00 most nights.
Sometimes when we leave on a sunday the place is hardly busy.
Also I thought that the flats hadn't finished being built.
It's probably people who have been kicked out of the clubs in other parts of the town looking to cause trouble, or the music is coming from the Dominos' delivery drivers, as the music in the Pool Club is not that loud.
First off it isn't snooker it is a POOL club!
It is a wonderful place to spend an evening and I personnally haven't seen any trouble.
Although me and my friends leave about 23:00 most nights.
Sometimes when we leave on a sunday the place is hardly busy.
Also I thought that the flats hadn't finished being built.
It's probably people who have been kicked out of the clubs in other parts of the town looking to cause trouble, or the music is coming from the Dominos' delivery drivers, as the music in the Pool Club is not that loud.
Posted by: Tharus Bond, Wycombe on 8:21am Tue 13 May 08
I't also isn't "boozy" as written in the headline.
Maybe you should get all of the facts before writing a story, maybe actually spend some time at the club.
I't also isn't "boozy" as written in the headline.
Maybe you should get all of the facts before writing a story, maybe actually spend some time at the club.
Posted by: nellyfire, high wycombe on 9:25am Tue 13 May 08
mr kirkwood , get off your high horse!
i gree with what has been said it was there long before you.
mr kirkwood , get off your high horse!
i gree with what has been said it was there long before you.
Posted by: nellyfire, high wycombe on 9:26am Tue 13 May 08
[quote][bold]nellyfire[/bold] wrote:
mr kirkwood , get off your high horse! i gree with what has been said it was there long before you.[/quote] sorry AGREE!
nellyfire wrote:
mr kirkwood , get off your high horse! i gree with what has been said it was there long before you.
sorry AGREE!
Posted by: Yervie, CSP on 11:45am Tue 13 May 08
Mr Kirkwood, you should sell your flat and move somewhere else!bet you went out and caused all sorts of trouble when you where young, you little hoodrat you!
Mr Kirkwood, you should sell your flat and move somewhere else!bet you went out and caused all sorts of trouble when you where young, you little hoodrat you!
Posted by: Marmite, HW on 11:47am Tue 13 May 08
I'm going to go there this weekend and make as much noise as possible when leaving.
I'm going to go there this weekend and make as much noise as possible when leaving.
Posted by: Yervie, CSP on 12:39pm Tue 13 May 08
you know what marmite i think i might do the same!
you know what marmite i think i might do the same!
Posted by: wingy people, high wycombe on 3:02pm Tue 13 May 08
i go to the hurricane room 5 times aweek,its great in there,the staff are wicked people and welcome you wiv great passion,yes sumtimes people can be loud leaving but hurricane staff cant tape peoples mouths shut,ive visited there a few times and loud noises ie loud music has came from the flats.2 faced people.they caiter for all people,even o.a.p.s visit there for a game ov pool so it cant be that bad can it.a road sweeper goes up and down in the morning,thats very loud,dominos pizza park iligally up and down the PATH WIV LOUD MUSIC,maybe they shud be complained about.anyway people from flats need to get a life and deal with it,hello its town center plus every member ov the public doesnt go in there and people WALK PAST BEIN LOUD SO THAT ENT THEIR FAULT,WAT ABOUT WEN THERE DOOR IS SHUT,PEOPLE STILL GO THERE BUT DONT GET ALLOWED IN,THEY MAKE NOISE BUT IT ENT HURRICANE ROOMS FAULT.STAFF ASK EVERYONE TO LEAVE QUITELY AND IF PEOPLE CHOOSE NOT TO BE THE STAFF MAKE IT CLEAR THEY WONT BE ALLOWED BACK IN THERE.I WATCH THEM TRY THERE HARDEST SO GIVE THEM A BREAK,THEY WERE THERE FIRST.IF U CANT COPE WITH THINGS,MOVE OUT.TOWN CENTER WILL NEVER BE A PEACEFUL PLACE,U WANT HUSH HUSH THEN MOVE IN TO THE WOODS BUT THEN THERE POOR OWLS WOULD HAVE TO SHUT UP
i go to the hurricane room 5 times aweek,its great in there,the staff are wicked people and welcome you wiv great passion,yes sumtimes people can be loud leaving but hurricane staff cant tape peoples mouths shut,ive visited there a few times and loud noises ie loud music has came from the flats.2 faced people.they caiter for all people,even o.a.p.s visit there for a game ov pool so it cant be that bad can it.a road sweeper goes up and down in the morning,thats very loud,dominos pizza park iligally up and down the PATH WIV LOUD MUSIC,maybe they shud be complained about.anyway people from flats need to get a life and deal with it,hello its town center plus every member ov the public doesnt go in there and people WALK PAST BEIN LOUD SO THAT ENT THEIR FAULT,WAT ABOUT WEN THERE DOOR IS SHUT,PEOPLE STILL GO THERE BUT DONT GET ALLOWED IN,THEY MAKE NOISE BUT IT ENT HURRICANE ROOMS FAULT.STAFF ASK EVERYONE TO LEAVE QUITELY AND IF PEOPLE CHOOSE NOT TO BE THE STAFF MAKE IT CLEAR THEY WONT BE ALLOWED BACK IN THERE.I WATCH THEM TRY THERE HARDEST SO GIVE THEM A BREAK,THEY WERE THERE FIRST.IF U CANT COPE WITH THINGS,MOVE OUT.TOWN CENTER WILL NEVER BE A PEACEFUL PLACE,U WANT HUSH HUSH THEN MOVE IN TO THE WOODS BUT THEN THERE POOR OWLS WOULD HAVE TO SHUT UP
Posted by: Kadoogan, Wycombe on 3:48pm Tue 13 May 08
wingy people: You seem to have a problem with your Caps Lock key being stuck. Also your spell check isn't doing it's job.
I agree with those who point out that the people who moved into the flats did so after the pool club extended it's hours. I hope they don't succeed in their protest because of that. If you don't want noise late at night, don't move next door to a late-opening club in the town centre. It's incredibly selfish for them to move in then expect businesses around them to change their opening hours to their satisfaction. If they want less noise they should have got somewhere out of town.
wingy people: You seem to have a problem with your Caps Lock key being stuck. Also your spell check isn't doing it's job.
I agree with those who point out that the people who moved into the flats did so after the pool club extended it's hours. I hope they don't succeed in their protest because of that. If you don't want noise late at night, don't move next door to a late-opening club in the town centre. It's incredibly selfish for them to move in then expect businesses around them to change their opening hours to their satisfaction. If they want less noise they should have got somewhere out of town.
Posted by: Marmite, HW on 4:10pm Tue 13 May 08
After reading wingy people's comment, I'd bulldoze the hurricane room. With him in it.
After reading wingy people's comment, I'd bulldoze the hurricane room. With him in it.
Posted by: Read All About It, HW on 4:57pm Tue 13 May 08
Kadoogan - hilarious.. Very well said !
Kadoogan - hilarious.. Very well said !
Posted by: Tharus Bond, Wycombe on 8:43am Wed 14 May 08
[quote][bold]Marmite[/bold] wrote:
After reading wingy people's comment, I'd bulldoze the hurricane room. With him in it.[/quote] That is probably partly true developers want the land but unlike the Marmite on my toast your current comment I hate!
Marmite wrote:
After reading wingy people's comment, I'd bulldoze the hurricane room. With him in it.
That is probably partly true developers want the land but unlike the Marmite on my toast your current comment I hate!
Posted by: Tharus Bond, Wycombe on 8:44am Wed 14 May 08
[quote][bold]wingy people[/bold] wrote:
i go to the hurricane room 5 times aweek,its great in there,the staff are wicked people and welcome you wiv great passion,yes sumtimes people can be loud leaving but hurricane staff cant tape peoples mouths shut,ive visited there a few times and loud noises ie loud music has came from the flats.2 faced people.they caiter for all people,even o.a.p.s visit there for a game ov pool so it cant be that bad can it.a road sweeper goes up and down in the morning,thats very loud,dominos pizza park iligally up and down the PATH WIV LOUD MUSIC,maybe they shud be complained about.anyway people from flats need to get a life and deal with it,hello its town center plus every member ov the public doesnt go in there and people WALK PAST BEIN LOUD SO THAT ENT THEIR FAULT,WAT ABOUT WEN THERE DOOR IS SHUT,PEOPLE STILL GO THERE BUT DONT GET ALLOWED IN,THEY MAKE NOISE BUT IT ENT HURRICANE ROOMS FAULT.STAFF ASK EVERYONE TO LEAVE QUITELY AND IF PEOPLE CHOOSE NOT TO BE THE STAFF MAKE IT CLEAR THEY WONT BE ALLOWED BACK IN THERE.I WATCH THEM TRY THERE HARDEST SO GIVE THEM A BREAK,THEY WERE THERE FIRST.IF U CANT COPE WITH THINGS,MOVE OUT.TOWN CENTER WILL NEVER BE A PEACEFUL PLACE,U WANT HUSH HUSH THEN MOVE IN TO THE WOODS BUT THEN THERE POOR OWLS WOULD HAVE TO SHUT UP[/quote] well done!
wingy people wrote:
i go to the hurricane room 5 times aweek,its great in there,the staff are wicked people and welcome you wiv great passion,yes sumtimes people can be loud leaving but hurricane staff cant tape peoples mouths shut,ive visited there a few times and loud noises ie loud music has came from the flats.2 faced people.they caiter for all people,even o.a.p.s visit there for a game ov pool so it cant be that bad can it.a road sweeper goes up and down in the morning,thats very loud,dominos pizza park iligally up and down the PATH WIV LOUD MUSIC,maybe they shud be complained about.anyway people from flats need to get a life and deal with it,hello its town center plus every member ov the public doesnt go in there and people WALK PAST BEIN LOUD SO THAT ENT THEIR FAULT,WAT ABOUT WEN THERE DOOR IS SHUT,PEOPLE STILL GO THERE BUT DONT GET ALLOWED IN,THEY MAKE NOISE BUT IT ENT HURRICANE ROOMS FAULT.STAFF ASK EVERYONE TO LEAVE QUITELY AND IF PEOPLE CHOOSE NOT TO BE THE STAFF MAKE IT CLEAR THEY WONT BE ALLOWED BACK IN THERE.I WATCH THEM TRY THERE HARDEST SO GIVE THEM A BREAK,THEY WERE THERE FIRST.IF U CANT COPE WITH THINGS,MOVE OUT.TOWN CENTER WILL NEVER BE A PEACEFUL PLACE,U WANT HUSH HUSH THEN MOVE IN TO THE WOODS BUT THEN THERE POOR OWLS WOULD HAVE TO SHUT UP
well done!
Posted by: Town Cryer, Wycombe on 2:37pm Sun 18 May 08
its simple --
you dont move into area if you dont accept whats there already
its simple --
you dont move into area if you dont accept whats there already
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